— GENERATION 8 · GROSZ —
Roza Grósz

Roza Grósz

שרה רחל
Sara Rochel · "Sura Rochel" · the elder Bobby's namesake

2nd great-grandmother · married Samuel Weisz on 8 May 1890 in Jákó · daughter of Ferencz (Herschel / Zvi Naftali) Grósz (d. 1922) and Háni Berger (1836–1894) · one of six Grósz siblings: Amália Miriam (1862–1930, m. Elias Feldman = Bobby's other grandmother — the Grósz hinge), Ezriel (b. 1865), Roza herself (1871), Lina (b. 1873), Simon "Elkanan ben Zvi" (1877–1957, first in family to America, Selma Alabama), Leah (d. 1923) · 1933 Hungarian civil death certificate (entry #15, Nyírbogát) gives age 62, cause of death májrák (liver cancer) · Character note from Irene Feig (her granddaughter), told to Sandra Kiferbaum: Roza was "a quiet little lady." This is the first direct character description we have of Sara Rochel — and a quiet contrast to the four generations of women descended from her household (Esther, Sarah, Irene, Sandra) who, by Sandra's own account, were all "big talkers." · Rivka Rochel Feig is named for her

The younger Grósz sister. Her older sister Amália Miriam Grósz married Elias Feldman in Jákó in the 1880s. Nine years later, Roza herself married Samuel Weisz on 8 May 1890 and moved fifteen kilometers north to Nyírbogát, where she became the matriarch of the Weisz household. She is the Grósz hinge on the Weisz side — her daughter Sarah Szerena married her sister's son Henry "Hymie" Feldman in Chicago in 1923 (one of the three documented first-cousin marriages of that generation). She is also Bobby's paternal grandmother — Lipot's mother. Source: Chapter 5.

2nd great-grandmother · married Samuel Weisz on 8 May 1890 in Jákó · daughter of Ferencz (Herschel / Zvi Naftali) Grósz (d. 1922) and Háni Berger (1836–1894) · one of six Grósz siblings: Amália Miriam (1862–1930, m. Elias Feldman = Bobby's other grandmother — the Grósz hinge), Ezriel (b. 1865), Roza herself (1871), Lina (b. 1873), Simon "Elkanan ben Zvi" (1877–1957, first in family to America, Selma Alabama), Leah (d. 1923) · 1933 Hungarian civil death certificate (entry #15, Nyírbogát) gives age 62, cause of death májrák (liver cancer) · Character note from Irene Feig (her granddaughter), told to Sandra Kiferbaum: Roza was "a quiet little lady." This is the first direct character description we have of Sara Rochel — and a quiet contrast to the four generations of women descended from her household (Esther, Sarah, Irene, Sandra) who, by Sandra's own account, were all "big talkers." · Rivka Rochel Feig is named for her

The younger Grósz sister. Her older sister Amália Miriam Grósz married Elias Feldman in Jákó in the 1880s. Nine years later, Roza herself married Samuel Weisz on 8 May 1890 and moved fifteen kilometers north to Nyírbogát, where she became the matriarch of the Weisz household. She is the Grósz hinge on the Weisz side — her daughter Sarah Szerena married her sister's son Henry "Hymie" Feldman in Chicago in 1923 (one of the three documented first-cousin marriages of that generation). She is also Bobby's paternal grandmother — Lipot's mother. Source: Chapter 5.

— THE FACTS WE’VE GATHERED —

The shape of their life

From civil records, family memory, and primary sources. Empty rows are research targets.

Identity
Civil name
Rozalia "Roza" Grósz
Hebrew name
Sara Rochel ("Sura Rochel")
Hungarian / nickname
Roza · Sura Rochel
Religious lineage
— not yet documented — +
Birth
Born (civil)
1871
Born (Hebrew)
— not yet documented — +
Place of birth
Apagy or Jákó, Hungary · open question
Time of birth
— not yet documented — +
Birth-order
— not yet documented — +
Family
Father
Ferencz (Herschel/Zvi Naftali) Grósz
Mother
Háni Berger
Married
8 May 1890 · Jákó
Spouse
Samuel "Shaul" Weisz · the Nyírbogát Kohen (1865–?)
Years married
— not yet documented — +
Children
9 documented · including Lipot, Hanni, Regina, Szerena, Esther, Malvina, Giza, Dávid, Ignácz Izeek Weisz
Life
Trade / occupation
— not yet documented — +
Lived in
Apagy · Jákó · Nyírbogát
Immigration
Arrived NYC
— not yet documented — +
Naturalized
— not yet documented — +
Petition number
— not yet documented — +
Alien Reg. No.
— not yet documented — +
Shoah
Camp survival
— not yet documented — +
Liberated
— not yet documented — +
Death
Died (civil)
— not yet documented — +
Time of death
— not yet documented — +
Yahrzeit (Hebrew)
— not yet documented — +
Place of death
— not yet documented — +
Cause of death
— not yet documented — +
Age at death
— not yet documented — +
Place of burial
— not yet documented — +
Grave inscription
— not yet documented — +
Photographed
— not yet documented — +
— THE PEOPLE IN THEIR LIFE —

Family

The generations they stood between.

— PHOTOGRAPHS —

Photographs

F · family record Samuel Weisz and Roza Grósz · marriage register, 1890 The Hungarian civil register entry recording the
F · family record Samuel Weisz and Roza Grósz · marriage register, 1890 The Hungarian civil register entry recording the. Samuel — Shaul ben Aryeh Refael HaKohen — was the patriarch whose grave still stands in Nyírbogát; Roza, the Sura Rochel for whom Aunt Rivka was named, would die in 1933. From this single line in a ledger, every Weisz descendant on the site flows.
F · family photograph Hanni Weisz Feldman Lipot's younger sister
F · family photograph Hanni Weisz Feldman Lipot's younger sister. She married her first cousin Ignácz "Nossen" Feldman — the marriage that bound the Weisz and Feldman lines a second time, since Roza Grósz and Miriam Grósz were already sisters. Hanni died in childbirth in 1929 at a young age. This photograph is the only image of her we have.
F · family record Roza Grósz · death certificate, 1933 Sura Rochel Grósz Weisz died on 11 Adar 5693 — 9 March 1933 — in
F · family record Roza Grósz · death certificate, 1933 Sura Rochel Grósz Weisz died on 11 Adar 5693 — 9 March 1933 — in. The certificate confirms her name, her age, and her place of death. Aunt Rivka, born to Tatty's parents in 1947, was given her Hebrew name Rivka Rochel for this great-grandmother.
F · family photograph Rivka's wedding · with Bobby and Zeidy Aunt Rivka — Rivka Rochel bas Mordechai Elazar HaKohen, nam
F · family photograph Rivka's wedding · with Bobby and Zeidy Aunt Rivka — Rivka Rochel bas Mordechai Elazar HaKohen, nam. From this marriage came the seven Schwartz children. Rivka died on 28 Cheshvan 5785 (29 November 2024).

The Klein × Weisz Archive is a multi-generational record of two Hungarian Jewish lines, joined by Bobby and Laci’s marriage in 1952.

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